Starting in the late 70’s before the interweb, before knowing anybody actually does this sort of thing, Raymond Wise had to seduce girlfriends into BDSM. The cornerstone of that seduction, is knowing what each other really needs, and fulfilling that need. This approach has been called, “clever,” “psychological”, “somehow unfair,” and even, “dangerously persuasive,” but Wise explains,
“All I do is lead people where they want to go, fulfill their needs, and then they’re more than happy to fulfill mine.”
That’s the focus of most of his workshops, find out what you both really need and how you need to get it. Then lead them there. That’s how he gets pretty much whatever he wants.

Carter Steven’s Pocono Fall Fetish Fling ( in 1998 ) was his first foray into the public scene where Joe and candi taught him what they know about flogging. After learning from lots of people, he’s given workshops at Passional’s Sexploratorium, The Kinke Shoppe, and The William Way LGBT Community Center in Philadelphia, York Play Group, Brimstone, The first NDDS Bootcamp, and The  Warehouse,

Wise also participates in SAR (Sexual Attitude Reassessment) at Widener University. The program helps future therapist process their feelings about various cultures of human sexuality. In the case of BDSM, you don’t want, on one hand, for the therapist to be horrified about what might be encountered, and on the other, you don’t want the therapist leaning into the patient, pencil and pad in hand, “REALLY! Where do you get one of THOSE!?”

Raymond is married to (not surprisingly) MrsWise, where they live in a surprisingly bucolic suburb North of Philadelphia. He hosts the nearby  BDSM of SEPA Social in Bensalem, PA. Raymond finds it moderately disturbing to write about himself in the third person.